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derrtyboy69 · May 02, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48

/notsigned

Chris1986 · May 02, 2006, 10:51 PM // 22:51

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Originally Posted by derrtyboy69

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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3023788

sinisters chaos · May 02, 2006, 11:06 PM // 23:06

ok, you guys boggle my mind, CH1 PERFECT ITEMS ARE DROPPING MORE, BUT LIKE I SAID SHIT SKINNED, show me a GODLY rare skinned item that you see DROP ALOT, also tehy are TRYING to make ch1 weapons MORE comon so CANTHAN weapons come into play... use your brain it helps.

/notsigned²

Tarun · May 02, 2006, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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They just fixed the drop rates because rares we next to never dropping.

Big_L · May 03, 2006, 01:25 AM // 01:25

This is rediculous. I shouldn't have to farm 100k to get upgrades that will make me competitive. Sorry, unlike you, i'd rather play the game than waste my time farming. Playing through the game ONCE NORMALLY should give you enough money to get max armor/weapons from crafters and max upgrades for each character you do it for. Thats how the game was intended.

I can MAYBE agree with you about the different skinned weapons. If pvers want their rewards and whatnot then they can have their precious weapon/armor skins. The pvper that doesn't care about appearance doesn't really have a right to complain about not having the best LOOKING items in the game. If thats what you want, go farm pve.

People continue to play the game for "rewards."
PVE: fissure armor/rare items
PVP: rank/fame/faction and whatnot

no matter how hard they try, Anet will never be able to merge the two. I gave up believing it. PvPers cried for items they didn't want to farm for, and PvEers cried for "titles" they didn't want to pvp for. So here we are.

As far as weapon upgrades: until we see a upgrade crafter/trader, they need to drop MUCH more often, and this update helped.
For skinned items: the arguement can go either way. It can be said that Anet did what they needed to do, which was cut down the incentive to farm, rather than nerf item drops at farming locations. Should people be rewarded for farming? is the big question, I guess. Personally, I think its stupid and no reward should be given for people who mindlessly exploit bad monster AI for hours. You want replayability and dynamic gameplay? Go PvP. They are not taking away your rewards for PVEing, they are taking away your rewards for FARMING. Lack of PvE content is another story, which is hard to change due to its static nature, but if you want replayability and dont want to pvp, then maybe this isn't the game for you.

Keep in mind, this is coming from a PvPer with no money

Tuoba Hturt Eht · May 03, 2006, 01:37 AM // 01:37

Gold drops is already fixed.
No more fixes is required.
Thank you.

/not signed, of course

Coolniceronguy · May 03, 2006, 01:43 AM // 01:43

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TheMosesPHD · May 03, 2006, 01:52 AM // 01:52

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Originally Posted by Chris1986

You're missing the point.

This isn't about stopping the ratio so we can all be "l33t haxz0rz wit 0ur crystalline sw0rds LoLZzzzz", its about having something to work for in the game. Whats the point of continuing PvE after beating it if theres nothing to work for?

Hmm, well now that mod prices are down it means ppl can compete on a more level playing field. What do you work for in PvE?

Rare skins: plenty of rare skins out there that ppl are dying to get but don't know where to find em. Go find em. And ya, I'm not talking about the things that you mentioned like Chaos Axes and Fellblades, because frankly believe it or not they're not that rare. Also try and figure out where those new greens drop. Though greens gradually get crappy in price over time, there are some that I've seen being sold that have such an awesome skin that it will definitely take a long time for the price to diminish.

Titles: See I believe achievements should be fun to obtain, like the title for 1000 hours of drunkeness or trying to explore 100% of the landscape. What is not fun? Killing the same thing over and over again, that's what. Plenty of fun titles for both PvE and PvP

Skills: The game is all about the skills. Get all the skilltz!

Gold: Pretty much every quest rewards you with gold, and once you choose a side it rewards you with faction, which you can trade in for jadeite/amber, which in turn can be converted into gold. I've made a pretty decent profit just going around playing factions. I haven't even farmed a thing yet and I'm gaining income. Sure you have to buy all the skills, but I've been buying all kids of skills and I've still come out making more money than I spent. Who knows how much money I'll make once I stop needing to buy skills!

Missions: Plenty of missions to get your name out there for the world to see. Oh, you can farm? Who can't? Try and prove that you've really got what it takes and get yourself a high score.

The same old weapons: So ya, the prices of all this stuff is dropping but at the same time there's more of it dropping! Ya the price of sup absorption is down to half what it was, but guess what, it's dropping over twice as often! You've just got to find the right spots, and believe me I can garuntee you there are some right spots out there some of my guildies have found. The prices of the items are going down, but the quantity in which they drop is going up. Because of this, all the new and old players alike can have a chance to purchase fairly decent/near perfect stuff and the ppl with more cash can purchase the best stuff. All in all they'll be pretty fairly matched equiptment wise and competitive playwise will be fine and dandy.

Anet wants people to enjoy the game, and they know farmers are all over the game, so they have ways for farmers to earn money. At the same time, you should have to earn what you get. And if you've been farming the same monsters, and trying to sell the same kinds of mods over and over than I think it's fair that every once in a while Anet mixes things up so that instead of being lazy and staying on the same stuff all the time, you'll have to go around and find a new way to make money.

But most importantly, and so many ppl that complain about things like this seem to miss this: Whats the point of continuing PvE? To have fun.

EDIT: Forgot this--> /notsigned

chrislee149 · May 03, 2006, 01:53 AM // 01:53

/notsigned.

It's nice getting a decent drop now and then (and I really mean that - got one decent Cleaver from a chest, not any other gold drops in Factions so far) without extreme farming. In fact, I couldn't even get golds before even with extreme farming. People have to farm about 100k gold, to trade to other farmers with fancy weapons, who buy other fancy stuff. All while the middle class of the economy wanders around, watching these people brag about their super exclusive items.

I used to be really poor, even with extreme farming my highest gold level was about 20k. Only have 100k now due to selling my minipet. Which I have to commend ANet developers for - a coveted item for everyone (after a year), not just those who can kill the most Aatxes.

Aerian_Skybane · May 03, 2006, 02:10 AM // 02:10

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the market was getting ridiculous. In fact, i know someone who just make almost 1.5 MILLION on ONE sword. but you know whats funny? It was a super rare skin. That pretty much echoes every other /notsigned comment about that. This will make the game more challanging to PLAY, which i rather prefer than wasting my time selling in LA for an item I wasted my time to get gold I really dont need. I have lived off of 50k or less pretty much the entire time ive played across every character (i have been playing since the first beta). And I have not had a problem.

Plus, your bitching about something you know nothing about, the new game/system is not even a week old yet. How many of you even REMEMBER the first months of CH1? Prices will even out for you lamers who spend forever doing nothing but the gold grinder all day. If you like doing that, go ahead and do, if your so pissed off about this market equalization, then go play WoW, I heard they like people like you there.

Durik · May 03, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12

/notsigned

Why?
You can't make everyone happy, personally as a person that never gets great drops and still hasn't amounted to the required amount of 65k for a nice 15k set of gladiator's, I think this makes it better. The game was made upon the foundation of skill, thus an update to level out the same monotonus genre of farming that every other game has aquired in its history. What's better than to bring in an update that makes everything more skill based than farming based? The game is about skill, not money. Last time I saw it, skills are what we use, and what are implied to use mainly. If your not playing the game for skill, then maybe your not happy playing it. I'm certainly not, because PvP has only made me happy, and my transition to PvE has made my overall experience worse.

Matsumi · May 03, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19

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I look forward to seeing more good drops in the future on weapons. Weapons, rare or not in this game, should not be valued so high anyway.

I still have yet to get a superior absorbtion from something, and it seems like I've been playing this game for way to long to not even see one yet (besides from the trader).

Frost_ · May 03, 2006, 02:20 AM // 02:20

/notsigned im rich now

NumberTheory · May 03, 2006, 02:32 AM // 02:32

/notsigned

The economy is fine, don't worry about it. This is just ANET's way of reducing grind and killing sweatshop farmers.

Melissa Is HOT · May 03, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37

Think about the poor lil azn sweat shop workers who will lose there jobs now... did you really make the right decision by not signing?

/signed

Vahn Roi · May 03, 2006, 02:41 AM // 02:41

"oh no, I can't get rich anymore by selling a sword hilt for 100k+ecto"

Does this sound like you, if so, I say "die in a fire." I'm happy to finally be getting things I can use without paying an arm and a leg for them, why do you have to rain on my parade?

Replicant · May 03, 2006, 02:46 AM // 02:46

/notsigned because i swear to god i have like a -500 luck modification on my account lol.

even with the new increased drops, i still only rarely see rares drop.. did IronMines + THK + Ring of Fire + Abaddons Mouth + Hells Precipice and 2 ToPK Runs.. in total i only saw about 5 rares drop.. so its not like every kill is a rare.

as it is.. a guildie of mine got this while we were out fighting..

he let me superior salvage it for the 20/20 and got a steel ignot...

Chris1986 · May 03, 2006, 03:56 AM // 03:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

"oh no, I can't get rich anymore by selling a sword hilt for 100k+ecto"

Does this sound like you, if so, I say "die in a fire." I'm happy to finally be getting things I can use without paying an arm and a leg for them, why do you have to rain on my parade?

That's not what this was about and I don't appreciate your rude comment.

Hodor · May 03, 2006, 04:17 AM // 04:17

unsigned

Worst gold drop I've ever had, yesterday

DarkGanni · May 03, 2006, 04:19 AM // 04:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melissa Is HOT

Think about the poor lil azn sweat shop workers who will lose there jobs now... did you really make the right decision by not signing?

/signed

Guildwars wasn't Made to Farm.

/notsigned. (of course)